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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Quicksilver tent camper dealers
« on: September 27, 2017, 02:06:17 PM »
I get it.  You don't like some of the changes, but others do.  Two of my friends found my QS too cold and industrial but love the new, softer look.  One has already purchased a QS and is picking it up this weekend while the other will be purchasing come the Spring (needs a better TV).  All of us selected Livinlite based upon one ultimate factor:  Size to Weight Ratio.

And as INFORMED purchasers I’m sure your friends will be happy with what they have... no one here is saying don’t buy these campers, only that they should be aware that these are not entirely the same as your 2015 model, or even last year’s for that matter.  Whether that is perceived as good or bad will no doubt be influenced by what was expected.. personally, I think some of the changes to come ARE improvements, the switch to the 2200# axle for one, for others, the jury is still out and time will tell. I am sorry if any of MY comments have offended you (not sure since you didnt directly quote me) but I think these MAJOR changes should be made known upfront (in the ‘News and Announcements’ section of this forum, perhaps?)  and not discovered after the fact by unsuspecting buyers. Please, by all means invite your friends to share their experiences here once they receive their new campers, that is what this forum is for.. isn’t it?

Also, My apologogies to the OP that this thread got hijacked...  :-\

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Quicksilver tent camper dealers
« on: September 26, 2017, 07:14:00 AM »

If you are buying new, my advice is to factory order it to your specifications.
Then it will be EXACTLY as you want it.

...as long as what you want includes a composite floor and, apparently now, laminated fiberglass exterior walls... my advice from personal experience would be to see one in-person before ordering anything, and even then be very specific about product details when placing your order. It seems the quicksilver product is in a transition period right now with changes being introduced mid-way in current year 2018 production runs. We have also seen variations in build quality where even frame supports are not consistently welded up in the same way unit to unit. This is all most likely due to KZ integrating the build of these units into their other product lines, imo.
Hopefully, build quality and consistency will return as new production processes mature for these campers.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Quicksilver tent camper dealers
« on: September 25, 2017, 04:24:47 PM »
A 2018 14XLP? If so, that is a rare bird indeed! Did it have the alu plank floor or composite?

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Quicksilver tent camper dealers
« on: September 25, 2017, 04:17:44 PM »
Livin’ Lite would like its customers to ‘buy local’ but what is ‘local’ when the nearest dealer is more than 100 miles away and doesn’t have any comparable units in stock to look at.. you may as well be mail-ordering the camper since you’re buying one sight-unseen. Prosser RV in Sturtevant, WI seems to be one of the bigger LL dealers in the country and often has multiple Quicksilver tent campers listed in their inventory. No affiliation, just personal observation.

http://www.prosserrv.com/default.asp?page=xmbNewInventory&sz=10&filter=&order=&year=&manuf=LivinLite&model=&bodytype=Trailer&bodysubtype=Tent+Trailer

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Actual weight
« on: September 22, 2017, 12:51:51 PM »
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4

Also, keep in mind that published tongue weight specs do NOT include the weight of the battery and propane tank(s), if so equipped. On the QS campers, both of these mount directly on the trailer tongue adding their weight to the published trailer weight on the hitch.
.      I thought it included the battery weight since it's standard. Oh well I think hitch weight can be adjusted by off setting more cargo behind the axle

These are sold ‘Batteries Not Included’ batteries and propane tank are provided (for a fee) as a dealer-delivery package. 

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Actual weight
« on: September 22, 2017, 08:46:58 AM »
“It's nice to hear about the entire quicksilver line upgrade to the 2200# axle.“

Not the entire line as the QS6.0 is still spec’d for the 1500# axle at this time.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Actual weight
« on: September 22, 2017, 07:02:25 AM »
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4

Also, keep in mind that published tongue weight specs do NOT include the weight of the battery and propane tank(s), if so equipped. On the QS campers, both of these mount directly on the trailer tongue adding their weight to the published trailer weight on the hitch.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Actual weight
« on: September 22, 2017, 06:52:12 AM »
I recently compared specs with another QS 10.0 owner and this is what we've noted.

2017 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  260 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  140 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1280 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  320 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 2200# axle, off road tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  860 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

Wow!
That's a pretty significant jump in allowable Cargo Weight with the second 2018. I'm assuming that is the result of the 2200# axle.

 RockorSomething, actually in Entropy’s case it is because its an off-road model which, along with the 14XLP, has always used the heavier 2200# axle. However, as I understood it from my conversations with LL, plans were in the works to move to the heavier duty axle for all 8.0,8.1 and 10.0 campers at some point in the 2018 model year. (probably after they used up all on-hand stock of the 1500# units) This is now reflected in LL’s published specs online for those models. Just another thing to keep in mind when shopping for one of these 2018 change-over model year units; cargo capacity can vary significantly depending on whether the production date was before or after the axle upgrade.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Upgrading interior floor - 2010 8.0
« on: September 18, 2017, 10:25:23 AM »
I thought of adding a thin-ish composite plank floor to my 2018 10.0 to try to stiffen the composite floor up and had the same thought as you to remove the kitchenette and ac box, however, in my case the heater inlet/exhaust which exits the camper body would probably need some 'adjusting' if everyyhing were raised up by 3/16" or so.. how thick is your flooring material?

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: 2018 (?) quicksilver wall flexing with beds
« on: September 18, 2017, 10:16:49 AM »
We factory ordered an extra electrical outlet to be installed in the rear of the camper

Wow, I had no idea that LL would take custom-order requests like that... I would've asked if they could have produced a 10.0 with a 14XLP-style dinette! I also had the idea of adding an additional 110v (and usb) outlet to the rear of the living quarters for easy access from the rear bed. Also planned is a dedicated microwave outlet in the kitchenette taken from the AC service line with an AC/MW switch installed to choose one or the other... some things you see the need for once you've lived with one for a bit ;)

 

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: 2018 (?) quicksilver wall flexing with beds
« on: September 17, 2017, 06:05:37 PM »
Here are a couple of pictures of the underside of the camper, showing the flush mount of the support members. The floor on mine is firm enough ( I would have preferred the aluminum plank....) How has LL addressed your problems?

Very interesting that your camper with an earlier build date would adress an issue seen on ones built a few months later.. I wonder if yours was a prototype for the new frame design? My July build date 10.0 was also special ordered but those mid-frame supports are welded at the bottom of the main cross supports.


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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: 2018 (?) quicksilver wall flexing with beds
« on: September 17, 2017, 03:12:14 PM »
Just checked the VIN, we have the J version so that makes it 2018. The floor and all side walls are composite. They are supported with the standard aluminum frame. Incidentally all our welded frame members are flush with the under side of the composite floor thus adding more bracing to floor structure.

Interesting, what's your build date? Month and year should be on the white mftr's info sticker on the outside panel... are the short bracing bars in the mid to rear of the frame flush with the underside of the floor? These run front to back between the large crossways frame members.. thanks!

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: 2017 quicksilver wall flexing with beds
« on: September 17, 2017, 02:03:05 PM »
It's composite throughout.
We purchased this as a 2017 from the dealer, but maybe it is an early 2018!

Look at your VIN# if the 10th position is an 'H' then it is a 2017, if it is a 'J' then you have an early build 2018 model.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: 2017 quicksilver wall flexing with beds
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:15:50 PM »
Hi Folks,

We have been quicksilver owners since 2013 with an 8.0 10th Anniversary edition which was sadly destroyed after being hit by a boat in the Pennsylvania mountains!

We now have a brand new 10.0 off-road which we picked up in May,

Hit by a boat? In the mountains? I know there's a good story in there we'd love to hear!

As for your 10.0, are you sure it's a 2017 model with the composite floor and walls? We thought those weren't changed until the 2018 model year... yours could be a 2018 even if produced in May of this year.

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QuickSilver Tent Campers / Re: Spare tire with off-road option
« on: September 04, 2017, 08:06:28 PM »
It wasn't standard on 2017 and earlier models and was located to the rear of the axle on pre-2018's. The new location forward of the axle likely contributes to the increased tongue weight numbers on the 2018 model 10.0 that I've noticed are way higher than what was spec'd (my unit's tongue weight is listed at 190lbs)

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