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New Members / Re: Old/new lurker/wannabe
« on: January 05, 2017, 09:46:17 AM »
@djsamuel is right, @mjmoore17 I never called out any owners on here. If you took offense that is your interpretation but not what is written. My issue is with the new board not with any owners. Did I call out any current owners? No. Did I say the owners here were bad? No. I suggested plenty of real live owners were elsewhere.

I have real expectations that this board will be sanitized to only reflect what the new managment wants published. I like the other board and I take offense to some company just taking that away for no apparent reason. Worse yet they put out a lame excuse about security, data retention, and ads...that's insulting to us as owners. How do we know LL won't just shut this board down when it doesn't go as they want? So for for data retention then...

I wish there was a like button.

Keep up with the Latest from Livin' Lite / Re: Welcome!
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:47:56 AM »
The increased security that I was referring to was (2) fold.
1.) Of most concern was the data was not secure as it was a service that could be here today and gone tomorrow.  That service at one time was free, like the original forum was, and then once upgraded it was a paid service, and then upon renewal the the price went up.  Price was not as much as issue as the fact it was proprietary, and the data was at risk. Because it was a service provided by a third party it could be here today and gone tomorrow.

2.)You may had noticed there was advertising on that site that displayed adds. Because it was on a forum that we paid for suggested we endorse those products.
I personally run add blockers on any browser I use so they do not appear, but the fact that they were there in itself  should tell you the security of your information is at risk and you are probably passing at the minimum your browsing habits and what your interests are.  That is why for instance you may have just been on amazon looking at a new fancy gadget or phone and when you went to the forum you may have seen an advertisement that was for the same or similar item.

Thanks.  On number 1, I see what you mean.  I hadn't thought of security in terms of loss of forum data, I was thinking in terms of personal ID security.  However, LivinLite seems to have accomplished the data loss in one swoop by deleting the data.  However, from this point on, I see your point.

For number 2, I disagree.  The ads were obviously from Google Ads or similar source and obviously were based on user cookie information.  As such, I can see no way LivinLite could have been accused of officially endorsing those products, at least legally.

In any case, thanks for the reply. 

Forum Recommendations / Re: Bring back the old forum
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:20:18 AM »
ACF...I'm giving it a shot. There is a category named "Ask Livn' Lite".  Maybe we will have some factory representation on this site. I don't think you'll find that on the other site.

Same here.  If there is an increased level of factory involvement and responsiveness, I'll give this the benefit of the doubt.  Otherwise, it was all an attempt to shut up those of us who paid a high premium for our trailers and have been honest about the appalling inconsistencies in quality control and carelessness during construction.  Certainly not limited to LivinLite.

New Members / Signing In
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:16:36 AM »
Just signing in from the older forum, which I MUCH preferred.

I'll give this a chance, but will be more active on the

As of now, I am no longer recommending LivinLite.  but will see what direction this forum takes.  I used to feel like a LivinLite salesman on other boards such as GoodSam's RVForum; but that ended a month or so ago.  Perhaps that will change.

New Members / Re: Returning Member
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:13:50 AM »
Welcome Back.  Shame we had to start all over but we are much more secure here. ;D

Secure from what?

New Members / Re: Old/new lurker/wannabe
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:13:08 AM »
It reflects more on the way Livin Lite/Thor/K-Z (or whoever they are today) handled the changeover in forums.  I don't think the poster meant anything personal.  I believe the assessment of honesty on this forum is rooted in the level of moderation and removal of negative posts that would take place here versus the previous more independent forum.

Keep up with the Latest from Livin' Lite / Re: Welcome!
« on: January 05, 2017, 08:07:03 AM »
Increased security? What the heck was wrong with the previous system? If there was a security problem, please post what that was!

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