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Title: Actual weight
Post by: Mr. Breeze on September 01, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Can anyone  please tell me the actual dry weight and tongue weight of your 2017 and 2018 10.0 and 8.0?
    I really want to buy one but my 2013 RAV4 has a 1000lb w/o brakes, 1500 with brakes and a 150lb tongue weight limit.
                   Thanks, Sig     Ps. Also options
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: Matt Livin Lite Sales on September 02, 2017, 12:25:15 AM
Hey Mr. Breeze I the 10.0 is 1190 lbs dry weight. What state do you live in?
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: Mr. Breeze on September 02, 2017, 09:14:14 AM
I live in Carol Stream , Illinois. I'm looking for actual weight with options. I'm concerned about tongue weight also. Isn't it written on the tongue? 
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: DavidM on September 02, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
 I know this is heresy, but I think the 2013 Rav4 will be fine towing a bit more than 1,500 lbs, particularly with brakes. The curb weight of the TV is about 3,600 lbs and it has a 2.5 liter engine. That combination should be able to tow 2,000 lbs with 200 lbs of tongue weight. Its competitors can do it.

Maybe check the hitch attachments and if it looks suspicious you can have additional members added to beef it up.

David
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: rob on September 02, 2017, 12:52:32 PM
You will only find what you are looking for at a dealer, while viewing a specific trailer.  The specific information that you are looking for will be written on specific trailer trailer.

That said, follow your TV manufacturer's manual.  If your TV is good for 1,500 w/electric brakes then that is what you follow.  Tow capacity is much, much more than just vehicle weight and engine size.  It is also about brakes, transmission, suspension, frame structure, etc. 

The Rav 4, like many so-called SUVs, are nothing more than cars that are heavier. As an example, a 2016 Ford Escape's towing capacity varies from 1,500 to 3,500 all depending upon model and options.  My friend's 4-cylinder Caravan has no towing capacity, but that same model year advertises 3,600 with an asterix........if properly equipped.

A new QS 10.0 is around 1,200 empty without any options.  Add your gear and passengers to the mix and I can guarantee you will be overweight.

Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: Mr. Breeze on September 21, 2017, 05:47:51 PM
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: Entropy3XD on September 21, 2017, 06:58:13 PM
I recently compared specs with another QS 10.0 owner and this is what we've noted.

2017 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  260 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  140 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1280 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  320 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 2200# axle, off road tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  860 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: RockorSomething on September 22, 2017, 04:01:51 AM
I recently compared specs with another QS 10.0 owner and this is what we've noted.

2017 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  260 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  140 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1280 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  320 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 2200# axle, off road tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  860 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

Wow!
That's a pretty significant jump in allowable Cargo Weight with the second 2018. I'm assuming that is the result of the 2200# axle.
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: smjcolsga on September 22, 2017, 06:52:12 AM
I recently compared specs with another QS 10.0 owner and this is what we've noted.

2017 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  260 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  140 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 1500# axle, brakes, standard tires
Total Weight:  1280 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  320 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

2018 10.0 - LP, AC, rear deck, 2200# axle, off road tires
Total Weight:  1340 lbs.
Cargo Weight:  860 lbs.
Hitch Weight:  190 lbs.

Wow!
That's a pretty significant jump in allowable Cargo Weight with the second 2018. I'm assuming that is the result of the 2200# axle.

 RockorSomething, actually in Entropy’s case it is because its an off-road model which, along with the 14XLP, has always used the heavier 2200# axle. However, as I understood it from my conversations with LL, plans were in the works to move to the heavier duty axle for all 8.0,8.1 and 10.0 campers at some point in the 2018 model year. (probably after they used up all on-hand stock of the 1500# units) This is now reflected in LL’s published specs online for those models. Just another thing to keep in mind when shopping for one of these 2018 change-over model year units; cargo capacity can vary significantly depending on whether the production date was before or after the axle upgrade.
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: smjcolsga on September 22, 2017, 07:02:25 AM
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4

Also, keep in mind that published tongue weight specs do NOT include the weight of the battery and propane tank(s), if so equipped. On the QS campers, both of these mount directly on the trailer tongue adding their weight to the published trailer weight on the hitch.
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: RockorSomething on September 22, 2017, 08:09:44 AM
RockorSomething, actually in Entropy’s case it is because its an off-road model which, along with the 14XLP, has always used the heavier 2200# axle. However, as I understood it from my conversations with LL, plans were in the works to move to the heavier duty axle for all 8.0,8.1 and 10.0 campers at some point in the 2018 model year. (probably after they used up all on-hand stock of the 1500# units) This is now reflected in LL’s published specs online for those models. Just another thing to keep in mind when shopping for one of these 2018 change-over model year units; cargo capacity can vary significantly depending on whether the production date was before or after the axle upgrade.

It's nice to hear about the entire quicksilver line upgrade to the 2200# axle.
It's kinda hard for anyone to be critical of THAT change. :)

And for the record, my 2018 (late August build) definitely has the 2200# axle, granted I also have the offroad package.

Here's a reference pic of the 2200# axle label for future buyers...

Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: smjcolsga on September 22, 2017, 08:46:58 AM
“It's nice to hear about the entire quicksilver line upgrade to the 2200# axle.“

Not the entire line as the QS6.0 is still spec’d for the 1500# axle at this time.
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: Mr. Breeze on September 22, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4

Also, keep in mind that published tongue weight specs do NOT include the weight of the battery and propane tank(s), if so equipped. On the QS campers, both of these mount directly on the trailer tongue adding their weight to the published trailer weight on the hitch.
.      I thought it included the battery weight since it's standard. Oh well I think hitch weight can be adjusted by off setting more cargo behind the axle
Title: Re: Actual weight
Post by: smjcolsga on September 22, 2017, 12:51:51 PM
I see now that the 8.0 has a tongue weight of 135 ! And a total weight of just under 1000lb so I think that I should have no problem towing with my RAV4

Also, keep in mind that published tongue weight specs do NOT include the weight of the battery and propane tank(s), if so equipped. On the QS campers, both of these mount directly on the trailer tongue adding their weight to the published trailer weight on the hitch.
.      I thought it included the battery weight since it's standard. Oh well I think hitch weight can be adjusted by off setting more cargo behind the axle

These are sold ‘Batteries Not Included’ batteries and propane tank are provided (for a fee) as a dealer-delivery package.