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Thanks so much for your reply I'm taking a look at that one in Michigan near Kalamazoo. I couldn't find anything on nada because they don't make them anymore I didn't think of k BB thank you again. 

I've been a member of the group since December of 2017 haven't spent much time here but I'm looking again for a livin lite.  I'm curious what a 2014 7 by 20 vrv sold for new in 2014. And since they don't make them anymore I'm curious what I could expect to pay for one today 7 x 20 with a flip-out queen bed and a fold-out couch no happy jack motorized bed. Because they don't make them anymore I can't seem to find them in any of the Native value guides or any information thanks.

I recommend if you've never camped before and  before you invest thousands of dollars in a unit,  rent an RV of some sort like a class C motor home and take it on a trip,  in the long run it would give you an idea of what you're getting yourselves into without making his permanent Financial investment.  Best of luck in your adventures and your decision!